Shalom CalebinFloroda!
Muncho plazen. Komo estash?
Me yamo es LoisLane.
Adyo!
born in cambridge, ma to a liberal couple that escaped the conservative south, my parents raised me better than to become a jehovahs witness.
funny thing was they got mixed up in it first.. while that is a story for another time, i myself had to go along as the third of five children in my family.
dads job transferred him to texas and my mom worked fulltime herself, but eventually we found ourselves drinking the kool-aid of ambiguity intolerance and full-fledge belief that the bible was literal fact and that salvation was found only by those who were smart enough to enter the confines of the watchtower.. its weird how many people claim they fear children raised by two gay parents will grow up to be gay.
Shalom CalebinFloroda!
Muncho plazen. Komo estash?
Me yamo es LoisLane.
Adyo!
this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.
start the count here with my wife and i.
Stumpy and wife, I am so very sorry this happened to you. I know of others still in that have no children, some single some married. Some too old and others at the cusp of being too old. This is a horrible man made up publishing house's fault for putting their own interests ahead of anyone else's.
Myself, I wanted children. Lots of children. It would have brought me joy. During my 30's, if I saw a mom pregnant or pushing a stroller, I had to look away so I wouldn't cry. I didn't go to baby showers. It hurt too much. I got pregnant when I was 40 but lost the child. I had always hoped I would have it again in WT's 'Paradise' along with 20, 30, 60 (lol) or more children. (Or as many as I was allowed in WT's 'Paradise').
I just wanted to say I feel for you and all of us who's lives were twisted in a way we would not have planned, if we had not been JW's.
(Hugs) of understanding and support.
LoisLane
i'm new to this forum.. i was raised in " the truth" from age six and now i am in my mid 60's.
my wife was born in " the truth" and is very strong in the religion.
i have had many experiences during my lifetime with the other members of several congregations.
Welcome to the "Woke Up In My 60's Club"! lol
I've been out for 3 years and I am the happiest of my life!
We were not stupid! We were guillible and innocent.
I hope you are able to wake your wife up gently. It is so wonderful when a family wakes up together.
All the best!
LL
it has been some time since i last posted or even visited the site, and i wondered why that was.
life continued to be difficult without a network of friends to look forward to seeing.
the novelty of being disfellowshipped wore off, and the mundane advanced as it did every day.
losingit,
Thank you for 'checking' in and letting us all know how very well you are doing!
Congratulations on the baby, your degree and all four of you going forward, together.
You sound strong and happy!
All the best to you and your little family!
LoisLane
yes, today is the forum's 15th birthday!.
i never thought for one moment that it would survive this long or have so many people post so many great subjects over the years.. it is still humbling when i get pm's or emails from people expressing how the site has helped them and of course thanks goes to all the posters who have shared their experiences and make helpful and supportive comments to others who are in the sometimes difficult process of learning the real truth about 'the truth'.. the site has gone through several different incarnations over the last 15 years running on different platforms, different databases and different hosts but we've been able to keep all the old topics.
the current site is still being developed and i'm hoping to push another major upgrade soon.. i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.. until then, here's the the next 15 years!
Three years ago, today, I was still a true blue believer. The next day at 5PM, I started reading C of C. Reading through the night, by 5AM March 25, 2012, LoisLane was out!
I had never looked at an XJW forum until the following August. After looking over what was available, I found this one was more to my liking.
Like most of you I was lost for a while. My whole world had fallen apart. I had been lied to my entire life. This Forum, helped me to pick up the pieces and move forward.
I am forever grateful Simon and to everyone else who held out a light and a helping hand to lead me to life where there is happiness and freedom and joy. The last number of months have been the happiest of my life. I go to bed happy and wake up happy. I have purpose in my life and that purpose has nothing to do with JW.org. They are a disgusting man made up business disguised as a fear mongering, Christian religion. I want nothing to do with them. Caleb and Sophia? Singing rolly carts? Spanz and bright socks and the laughable masturbating talks for the hearing impaired. I read it all here first. lol
LoisLane
i've decided to graduate at the end of this year (2015).
i need 69 credit points to graduate successfully at my university, and i already have about 80. i also have to write a capstone essay (of 5000 words) on a ancient history topic.
in addition, i'm doing two other 5000 word research essays this year.
That is fantastic news, fulltimestudent! Good for you and all the best!
LoisLane
check this out.
got this bound volume from my dad.. .
I placed that magazine, while I was, of course, pioneering. and
LL
in my wanderings around the net i have discovered some very interesting things.
this particular piece is based on a training session for colporteurs during the believers in the atonement sacrifice of christ convention held in ashbury park new jersey july 22-29, 1906. .
i will bold some of their comments that i found interesting and will add my comments in red.
I am speechless. This is sickening. A true look behind the 'Wizard's dirty curtain'.
LL
ive not seen him on this new site--or do i need new specs.?
its usually hard to miss the old bugger
It is so good to see you again OUTLAW! You have been missed!
LL
PS Are the smiley face icons and the fellow tooting his horn gone or do I just not know how to steer around the new options?
my name is louie and i'm seeking some help regarding a paper i need to write for a class.
it is meant to be an individual study project regarding a faith that is different from your own and intrigues you.
what i am asking is for someone who is willing to answer 10-15 questions regarding their faith.
Hello Religious Quest,
Fred Franz, who was Vice President of The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society aka Jehovah's Witnesses, at the time I am relating, (later to become the President of WTBTS) told a trusted friend that when he was visiting your church, The Vatican in Rome, he gathered his group of JW's together and said, "Let's bow our heads in prayer". Then he said everyone was a bit puzzled that Fred wanted to say a prayer in your Church, but okay, it was Fred Franz, the VP of all JW's worldwide. After everyone had bowed their heads, he said, "God damn this place to hell". Everyone with him said amen out loud, then they all started laughing.
I was raised as one of JW's. I was taught to hate Catholics, no, not from my parents, but from the WT Society through their public talks and public literature.
I was also taught to hate homosexuals, again, not from my parents, but through the WT Society aka JW.org, through their public talks and through their public literature.
I was taught, through indoctrination by the WT aka JW.org not to date unbelievers. To date or marry an unbeliever was considered to be bad and evil.
I was taught that to please God, that I was to be a virgin on my wedding night. To do otherwise, might condemn me to die at the fearful Armageddon.
I was taught that God hates a divorcing and that only "spiritually weak" JW's sought a divorce from Caesar's Court's.
I was taught that as a female, I had to be in subjection to all baptized males, especially my husband. I was there to serve him.
At the age of 62, separated from my JW (Elder) husband, I secretly read the forbidden book, Crisis of Conscience by former JW governing body member Ray Franz. I read through the night and the next morning at 5AM, LoisLane was out.
LoisLane
PS I too, have visited The Vatican. It is a beautiful jewel, inside and out. I paid the ticket price to go down into the basement to look at some of the past Pope's robes, jewelry, shoes, hats, golden drinking cups, all encrusted in big precious jewels, etc. It was a fabulous display of wealth. The whole Vatican country was a huge display of Catholic wealth. It hurt me to think I had traveled to 3rd world countries, which were Catholic controlled ones, and to see so much poverty among the people and yet the Priests, in their finery, were telling their 'people' to buy candles, and to give the Church money to pray for their loved ones to get out of the man made up purgatory (which was just one way to fool the humble people into giving up their hard earned cash). In some areas, you have to pay yearly for your loved ones in their Catholic church controlled cemeteries. If you don't keep up your yearly payment, out comes the grave, and the Church gets it ready for the next paying "customer".
Now that I am out of JW.org and all religions, I am so happy every day. Even though WT aka JW.org took a huge slice of my life, what time I have left, is my own. I have never felt such peace and happiness, as I do now.
I wish you well in your life's journey.
LL